Not a lot of time for an entry this morning. Off to the all day seminar that is about an hour drive away. Wish me luck that I can pay attention and stay awake all day. Responses to today's comments won't be until after six tonight.
According to the following article it is now more financially beneficial for men to get married than it is for women to do the same. Great, another reason for a woman to run screaming from me.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_on_bi_ge/us_marriage_economics
Speaking of women here is today's everyday hero:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/margie_boule/index.ssf/2010/01/after_60_years_beaverton_woman.html
Are you surprised by the progress women have made over the past few years? Since their income is still only 77% of men for the same job is there still a ways to go? Do you think your single women friends now will be less likely to marry at an early age then they were before? And what do you think of the women that got her college degree after a sixty year wait?
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Interesting articles, both. BTW, the first link didn't work for me, but I found the article by just going to http://www.azstarnet.com/business and looking around.
I'm not surprised by women's progress, I'm just glad it's happening. I'll be gladder when earning power is the same.
My single women friends are around my age and as far as I can see, we all intend to remain single. I think women in general may be tending to marry later, which is probably a good thing.
Bravo to the woman who got her degree at 79. I don't know what it'll be good for, but she had a great time, so good for her. Our mutual friend Cathy did something similar, but quite a bit earlier than this woman. I think she was 50-something when she got her degree.
Hon, you're not the sort of man women run screaming from, but toward. If I weren't married... Still,it's an interesting article, showing that women are making some strides. Hoever, given the earnings differences still prevelant, it's more cost effective to lay off a man than a woman. And the economy is changing everything. I can well remember when a skilled worker (male) without a degree made more than his college-educated wife or girlfriend.
I think men and women are both waiting longer to marry, much to their parent's generations' dismay. I didn't marry until I was 35 and, quite frankly, the Midwestern contingent had quite given up on me. I think we may continue to see a later marriage trend, particularly as more kids head to college or speciality schools and have loans to pay off and the few younger women I know are looking for an equal partnership -- they'll work and help with the income, but they expect reciprocal help from their spouses, in terms of cooking and housekeeping and kids and such. I think the overall playing field still has to be leveled.
Big congrats to the 79 year old lady who got her college degree, finally. What a feeling of accomplishment, how wonderful her husband suported her efforts and how great that the kids in her classes had a chance to get to know her and probably gained some wisdom the professors could never have provided.
Like Pat, I couldn't accesss the link, but backed off the last bit and got the main site and found the story. I agree with Pat that waiting to marry is probably a good thing -- you've had time to become your own person, be comfortable with yourself and know what you want. It would be interesting to compare divorce stats between those who marry at 20and those who marry at, say 30 or 35, for the first time.
We also have another mutual friend, Shirley, who waited until her fifties, as I recall, to go back and get her masters degree. And loved doing it.
Hi Pat
When I tried the link before I left this morning it worked but when I got home it didn't work for me either. I put a new link in with basically the same story.
I hope we see equal pay in our lifetime. I do think it is good that there are more marriages with women as the main bread winner. Shows men are accepting then as equals or superiors.
I think there were several in the CSI group that did that. Shirley and Cathy were two that came to mind.
Bill
Hi DR
You are such a good boost to my ego. Women that ran towards me usually run right by me to the guy standing behind me.
I think like that women are waiting longer to marry but that is a sign that they are marrying because they want to not because society thinks they should.
I also think work duties need to be more level but there are more househusbands then before. More dads raising kids etc.
The 79 year-old is obviously very dedicated and besides a supportive husband no doubt had some supportive freinds. I found it interesting that she got a standing ovation at graduation.
Shows the other students supported her.
I just mentioned Shirley in my previous post!! That was before I read yours.
Bill
IF women are running past you, they don't have their eyes open.
I think women (and men) marrying because they want to and are in love is a huge step froward from marrying because society expects it by a certain age, depending on regional cultures. I shall always suspect that the "should" marriages are a big part of divorce statistics.
Quick, quirky story: As is true with my clients, many of Himeslf's customers become friends, like the guy who lives 100 miles from here but has an elderly mom who lives about 30 miles the other side of us and whom he visits at least weekly. He's taken to stopping by on his way home, first to talk about his concern (which Himself could udnerstand, given oursituation, and now about the fact she needs to move to TX to live with his brother, much like the situation with Mom. We've all talked about it. Anyway, he stopped today, after a visit with his mom, and I was on my way to a doc's appt. Went to the shop, told Jim I was glad his mom was better. told Al when I expected to be home, apologized for the quick "hello and goodbye." Gave Himself a quick kiss and hug.
Jim said, "I'm so glad to see someone else do that. I always kiss my wife goodbye and people say we're 'too old' for that kind of stuff, so I'm glad to see other 'old married folk' do the same thing." I told him if you're too old to kiss your husband when you leave for any period of time, you might as well be dead!
Hi DR
I love the story. Charming.
My mom and dad always held hands when they walked after sixty years of marriage. They kissed every mornng, even when dad had dementia he told mom he loved her every day.
Bill
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