First up is an article by a women suggesting that women should go ugly. The article is by Vicki Larson.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/picking-the-wrong-mate_b_873044.html
The statement in the article "women are more attracted to guys in relationships because they have "proven they can commit," at first surprised me. That was until I remembered that wild period right after college when we were doing the bar scene and a lot of my single male friends would wear wedding rings because women would pay more attention to them. Sad but true.
Next up is the rebuttal of the above article written by Tom Matlack.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matlack/men-need-to-be-ugly-to-be_b_878253.html
I loved this quote from the article:
"The paradox of life is that we often have to fail utterly and completely before we can truly succeed. We are told over and over again that its what you have, and what you look like, that determines success when it is actually who you are that counts."
Now the two authors debate their articles:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matlack/should-women-really-go-ug_b_880110.html?icid=main%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk1%7C216522
Who do you think won? I am going to stick up for my gender on this one. I liked Tom's article better than Vicki's. Comment Away.
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6 comments:
I had kind of misinterpreted yesterday's mention of the "ugly" advice before seeing it. I assumed it was telling women to uglify themselves, not to go for "ugly" men. In fact, I see, at least in the media, lots of "hot" women with not-so-good-looking men. I suspect they are either smart in choosing in other ways than looks, or there's always the possibility they are going for money or status.
Weiner is not all that hot. IMO.
The rebuttal guy makes a lot of sense, also. I do think that except in maybe some really extreme cases, looks shouldn't matter at all in the choice equation. Or am I dreaming?
In the back & forth, they both sound quite reasonable to me, so I won't declare a winner. {g}
Interesting articles. Like Pat, I expected to see something about women downplaying good looks, so the first was a surprise.
I think both articles bring up important points and they're really not that far apart, in several area. I'm not up on who's cheating who these days. However, when I think back to my wild and wacky twenties and early thirties, much of which was spent in the electronics industry, probably 50% of the really good looking guys who were in higher management positions with high salaries were all cheating on their wives, some divorced and cheating on the second wife. (Made it difficult in social situations, when you had dinner with hubby and wife one week and the next outing he was with his girlfriend) Then again, electronics was an industry and culture all its own. I do think it's quite possible good-looking and successful men are more likely to cheat, but I think part of that is because women tend to pursue them and temptation is hard to resist, over the long haul.
I don't think there was a "winner" in the debate, unless it was the reader. Both parties made it clear that character, shared values and priority and goals are what make for a happy and lasting marriage, much more than looks and a "hot" score on looks, plus power and status. Unfortunately, in today's world, that three way combination has become more and more appealing to many and I think it works both ways, particularly as women gain ground in status, power and financial well being. Will we reach a point where we see similar stories about women?
Hi Pat
I misinterpreted the article the same way you did. But when you think about if women are going to choose ugly men then they would probably have to ugly down in appearance too so as not to scare them off.
I never though Weiner as being all that good looking, certainly not as good looking as his wife.
I agree with you that looks shouldn't enter to it at all. No you are not dreaming.
I chose the man in the going back and forth because the woman's article left me with the impression that only ugly men are good and will be faithful. Although my odds increase tremendously if women choose ugly men I do know a lot of attractive men that are very good men and would never cheat on their wife.
Bill
Hi DR
We all got the same impression about the articles.
It always surprise when the stats show more than 50% of married men cheat because none of my married men friends do and never have. The worst boss I ever had did cheat on his wife and even tried to get me to hire his girl friend in my department and I refused. I letter turned him over for stealing from shareholders. The cheating was because he had a lack of character.
Interesting question you asked.
"Will we reach a point where we see similar stories about women?"
Maybe but women think more about the impact their cheating will have on their family and their children. Still I think the possibility is there as women out number the men in the work force. It gives them same thing men had for years, more opportunity to cheat.
Bill
I don't think the women would have to ugly down. Men of all varieties of attractiveness seem to want a pretty woman. But I did once work with a rather gorgeous blonde who told me she had a hard time getting dates because men were afraid to ask her. So here I am, shooting down my own argument.
As to DR's question, I don't think women will ever cheat as much as men, though some certainly do cheat. I sort of think there's a biological imperative at work there--men are genetically predisposed to spread their seed as widely as possible. {g} There's also the manner of flirting. If a woman is clever about it, she can certainly be intriguing, and the man will think himself the pursuer. But often men aren't quite so clever and their advances come off as "hitting on", which most women don't like much. My $0.02, for what it's worth.
Hi Pat
I like your two cents worth.
However, I kind of disagree with just a tad. I've heard it said in several formats from beautiful women themselves that they don't get asked out a lot because men are afraid they will say no. Just like your blonde friend said. Should they ugly down their appearance? I don't really know.
I do think women will cheat more than they do now when they are out in work force but I don't think they will ever cheat as frequently as men do.
Flirting is another question, I know neither how to do it or when it is done to me. I'm clueless where flirting comes in.
Bill
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