Wednesday, July 7, 2010

College or Not?

Sorry I am late posting today but it really hasn't been all that great of a day. Sometimes family members say hurtful things they don't really mean and it isn't all that much fun. Meant or not they are still hurtful and sometimes it requires shutting out the outside world to get your focus back. This has been one of those days and one of those times.

Enough complaining. I only have one subject today, college. Growing up none of us in our family thought we had any choice but to go to college. College was the main topic of most dinner discussions. It was just assumed that the next step after high school was college. All three of us kids ended up with some form of college and our lives have definitely been better for it. That is why I was kind of surprised by the following editorial arguing that college isn't always the best choice:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-07-07-column07_ST_N.htm

What do you think of the above column? Agree with him? Disagree? When you graduated from high school was it drilled into you that college was your only choice? I actually agree with the columnist despite the fact that I think my parents did the right thing by instilling in us the motivation to continue our education after college. Just because it was right for our family doesn't mean it is right for every family.

Who Is She?

Yesterday's answer: Jovita Idar

She was born in Mississippi in 1927 and raised in the segregated South. Her father worked in a lumber mill and her mother was a midwife who sang in the church choir. They had waited 13 years for a child, and she became the focus of intense pride and love. Given a toy piano at age 3, she began piano lessons right away with a local teacher. When she was in kindergarten, her parents traded in the family phonograph as the down payment on an upright piano. At 14, she was taken on a school trip to hear Marian Anderson sing in Jackson, and she remembered the experience as inspirational. In her teen years she accompanied the "second choir" at St. Paul's Methodist Church while singing and playing for the chorus at the black high school. Meanwhile, she often visited the home of an affluent white family for whom her aunt worked as a laundress. The while lady encouraged the girl's early piano playing, and later noticed her extraordinary singing voice. Aiming for a teaching career She enrolled in the music education program at an all-black College. Her success in the glee club led to solo assignments, and she was encouraged to complete her studies in voice. She sang in the choir with another soon-to-be-famous singer. After school she went on a tour of Europe, sponsored by the U.S. State Department. After appearing in Vienna, Berlin, London, and Paris, the company returned to New York when Broadway's Ziegfeld Theater became available. On the eve of the European tour, she married a noted bass-baritone. She would later become the first black to appear in a leading role in a televised Opera, several affiliates canceled the telecast in protest. She rose to international fame during a period of racial change and became the first African-American to become a leading prima dona at the Met. When she appeared at the met a New York Times critic wrote of her "voice, warm and luscious, has enough volume to fill the house with ease, and she has a good technique to back up the voice itself. She even took the trills as written, and nothing in the part as Verdi wrote it gave her the least bit of trouble. She moves well and is a competent actress. But no soprano makes a career of acting. Voice is what counts, and voice is what she has." Her voice ranged from A flat below Middle C to the E above High C. (She said she reached high Fs "in the shower.") Among her many honors are the Presidential Medal of Freedom , the Kennedy Center Honors , the National Medal of Arts , numerous honorary degrees, and nineteen Grammy Awards, including a special Lifetime Achievement Award. She was also one of the recipients of the first Opera Honors given by the National Endowment for the Arts. Her last role was in 1977 in San Francisco In 2001,, at age 74, she was asked to come out of retirement and sing in a memorial concert in Carnegie Hall after the September 11 attacks. With James at the piano, she sang a favorite spiritual, "This Little Light of Mine", followed by an unaccompanied "God Bless America", capping it with a bright, easy high B-flat. Miles Davis, in his self-titled autobiography, writes of her "I have always been one of her fans because in my opinion she is the greatest female singer ever, the greatest opera singer ever. She could hit anything with her voice. She is so good it's scary. .. I love the way she sings Tosca. I wore out her recording of that, wore out two sets." Who is She?

12 comments:

Pat said...

Sorry you had hurtful comment(s) by family members. Consider the source(s) and try to forget about it.

I almost totally agree with the columnist. Only almost because many employers still view a degree (in anything) to be a requirement, even if the subject has nothing to do with the work. I guess it does indicate the person can pay attention and complete a goal.

Back in my day, along with dinosaurs, we had different attitudes. I wasn't drilled about college. I was advised to learn to type because I might "need something to fall back on". It was actually good advice, as far as it went. I went to college for a while, totally un-directed, and while it was good experience and I probably learned some things, it didn't matter later that I didn't have the degree. But I lucked out in a lot of ways and not every young person starting out today would be so lucky.

William J. said...

Hi Pat

That is the problem the source is the closest to me. The same source has never issued a sincere policy in her life. I'm partly at fault because I didn't follow my normal game plan of ignoring the comments and responded. I just got tired of the comments.

I'm not that far behind you and pretty much the ladies in my town were told to learn typing and to look for a husband not to go to college. Fortunately in our family my parents didn't do that to sis. My parents paid for one year of college for each of us and then we earned the rest.

And by the way because I was double jointed and had a hard time holding a pen or pencil I was sent to typing class in the 7th grade. It has proved to be a valuable skill for me too!

Bill

Lady DR said...

I think I'm back. Sorry I've been least in sight, but I have been skimming the messages.

I made up to-do lists for three weeks and became obsessed with accomplishing them and, by end of day, all I wanted to do was go to bed and forget trying to be coherent. Hopefully, I'm on a more moderate plane at this point.

Redwhistle, prayers continue for you and your mom. Dona, you and the Shankster continue to be in my thoughts and prayers, as you wait for tests and results. Glad to hear things look good for him at this point.

Bill, I keep your various family members in my prayers and hope for clear test reports and the best for all and hope for a fun reunion. Sorry to hear about the hurtful comments, but agree with Pat - consider the source. I still have a hard time with it, but try to learn to "observe, accept, don't judge or force." Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. It's hard to ignore comments form people you love and are trying hard to please/help/whatever.

As to today's post -- I agree with much he has to say. We've pushed kids to college as the only future path, yet there are people with anywhere from BS to PhDs, from age 20 to 50, who can't find jobs, often because they're over-qualified, yet don't possess the technical skills needed. I don't know what current stats are, but ten years ago, the state of FL was making a great deal of money by accepting students into college, then forcing them to take "recidivism" classes, to bring their reading comprehension and math skills to a level that would allow them to comprehend college-level classes. Personally, I think we need to be sure our high school graduates have reading/math/living skills that will allow them to get jobs and survive, while they pursue technical or college level skills and degrees. What we're seeing here (SC) is an interesting mix -- the mill workers put out of jobs, many of whom don't even have a high school degree while, at the same time, college grads, even with advanced degrees, who don't have the practical and technical skills demanded by potential employers. Perhaps we need to rethink the skills taught in college? In high school? Tech grads seem to be better able to fulfill the demands in technology, health care and the like than college grads.

Didn't do a check-in, so let's just say it's been a little crazy and a lot busy around here, with editorial work, the county laying a new water line on our street, the impact that may have on our bathroom renovation, and preparing for Maryanne and TJ to arrive and become "near neighbors" on our RV pad in the next few days. We're looking forward to their arrival. I keep up with the pool PT and line dance and have "pushed the envelope" a bit too far in some physical activities and paid the price the past few days, so will behave myself for a few days.

dona said...

Hi Bill, and I also am sorry you had a bad day. I also say try to forget about it and hopefully you will awake in the morning having forgotten all about it. Well probably not, but sweet dreams to you. Shame on anyone making you feel rotten! And good for you standing up for yourself.

William J. said...

Hi DR!!

Glad to you see you back, you have been missed!

Believe it or not I quit making to do lists because I started to feel controlled by them. I'm glad you were able to knock some items off of them!

The source is Mom DR. That is what makes it so hurtful. A sincere apology would go a long ways towards making the comments forgettable but in over ninety years of living I doubt if she ever issued one. It usually comes out as an accusation which just makes matters worse. Basically I am a horrible person that expects to much but she "loves me anyway." I just should have ignored it but I just told her I didn't need that kind of love and she could shove that love where the sun doesn't shine. Just made matters worse.

I started out at a four year college then due to the accident went to a technical school for two years before going back to the four year college. I learned more at the technical school. More practical tools then any four year school taught. However, having a BS degree did open some closed doors.

We are seeing the same thing here that you are seeing in SC. Jobless on all educational letters and those with college degrees trying to get a job at Starbucks and then not doing very well at it.

Wow I hope the water line doesn't impact the bathroom renovation to much! Say hi to Maryanne and TJ!

Welcome back

Bill

William J. said...

Hi Dona!!

I haven't really forgotten about it, it just doesn't hurt as much so it is slowly going away. And this is a case of sticking up for myself wasn't a bad idea considering the age of the other party.

Guess what sister from another mother?

I love turkey too! I should have been at your house during turkey week!

Bill

Lady DR said...

I suspected Mom was the source of your hurt. Sometimes I wonder if our moms have any idea how they hurt us with their comments, especially when we're sometimes knocking our lights out to take care of them.

Interesting about the to do lists. I sometimes need them just to have some structure in my life, to get them off my mind as perpetual nags and because it feels so darned good to cross stuff off!

Not sure how the water line will affect us, but I suspect the renovation is on hold for a month, maybe more. They have to put it all in, then test the water going through it for "x" days, retest and so forth. Plus, we won't do it while MA/TJ are here, since we'll be sleeping in the rig and it's our only "second" bathroom. We'll just be sure to get ninety day estimate guarantees.

William J. said...

Hi DR

I can usually deal with the comments but I can't deal with never hearing the words "I'm sorry, I didn't mean it." Instead it comes out I didn't say it or do you realize what say to me all the time. A denial or an accusation, never an apology. Which really means they meant what they said and the comments linger.

I just got to anal about the to do lists. I figure if I miss somethine someone will let me know!

Wow that is a long time to wait for a bathroom remodel!

bill

Lady DR said...

Honey, the bathroom has been begging for a "real" remodel since I did the painting and laid the carpet in there seven or eight years ago. Given that, ninety days is the blink of an eye (G).

dona said...

Hey Bill, didn't know you knew about the Turkey...I love Turkey, but most around me don't.

I am really sorry to hear the comments came from mom. But I hear you on the not apologizing. I have to say my mom never did that but my dad has and continues to. He will, when I call him on it say something like Oh I forget you are sensitive Or something to that effect like you say, not saying I am sorry I said it but sorry you can't take it. Hurts worse I think.

Just know we are out here for you.

William J. said...

Hi DR

Then I will quit worrrying! Ninety days is a skate!


Bill

William J. said...

Hi DR

Read your blog, that is how I knew about the turkey!

What is about our parents that they can't apologize and if they do they turn it into whatever happened being our fault?

How can they live that long and not learn the words "I'm sorry, I didn't mean it."

Your dad and my mom must twins!

Bill